Posted on April 24th, 2017 by wombwithaviewblog.com

Amniocentesis…All Women Need One??

Who needs an amniocentesis? When should an expectant mother consider an amniocentesis? What factors help a patient decide if an amniocentesis is right for her? Only your doctor can help you make this decision, but you can find out a little more about first-trimester genetic testing…some very basic information…here.

The internet is filled with all kinds of misinformation, right? I think most of us realize this and, hopefully, take forums of personal opinion with a grain of salt. However, I read an article last night in a popular parent/child site that I felt was a bit disturbing. We expect more credibility from these sites, don’t we? Shouldn’t we expect their information comes from a knowledgeable source? Maybe it did, but the author should have been more careful with her words. Maybe an author should have to meet more strict guidelines before publishing important recommendations for pregnant women.

So, the article was all about ultrasound…a subject with which I’m pretty familiar. She had a few tidbits of information incorrect. Of course, I had to respond with a comment correcting them. But one statement I vehemently disagreed with was one regarding amniocentesis. The author stated that any expectant woman over the age of 35 or with a family history of genetic abnormalities should have an amniocentesis. Should? This statement should have never been printed. Women faced with this option may search the internet for information to help them decide. I would like to think their decision would not hinge on an article found on the internet. In the same respect, I’m sure their readers consider them a reputable site filled with only accurate information.

The truth is that no woman should just hop aboard the amnio train (we use “amnio” for short in the field) without a serious discussion with her obstetrician. Granted, no obstetrician would perform an amnio without discussion and signed consent from the patient. However, I would hate for this article to automatically sway any pregnant woman to believe she needs it. The test and its results are not without repercussions. With that, I felt my next post should expound on the topic to the extent of my experience with it.

Things to Consider Prior to Amniocentesis

Genetics gets quite complicated, and some patients find it difficult to understand all they’re told. For this reason, I won’t go into too much detail about the different types of testing and what they can detect. This is mostly because I do not have this information. However, your doctor does. Most patients don’t just jump right into having an amnio. A patient is usually first asked whether she wants chromosomal testing.

Desiring this testing is typically based on a patient’s “need to know.” Why do you want the information?  If your mentality is such that you will have this baby no matter what, and you don’t need to know anything in advance, your doctor may say first-trimester testing is not for you.

However, if you are the type of patient who NEEDS to know normal vs abnormal, a host of other questions opens up for you. Will you abort this pregnancy depending on results? Or is abortion out of the question? If so, do you simply want to educate and prepare yourself and family for what is to come? If so, this testing may be for you.

What’s Included in Genetic Testing?

Some genetic testing includes bloodwork and/or ultrasound, the NT or Nuchal Translucency test which are all usually performed somewhere around 10 weeks to 12 weeks. It does not always include an ultrasound; that depends on what type of testing your doctor offers. The NT scan requires certification of the sonographer who takes special pains to measure a fold of skin behind your baby’s neck.

amniocentesis

NT test

This measurement, IF it can be obtained, then goes to a lab with your bloodwork. Sometimes the measurement cannot be obtained if Baby is not in a good position or if the image is not clear enough. Recent developments in bloodwork have become more reliable than performing an NT. Some physicians, therefore, no longer offer the NT and only offer the bloodwork. Some docs still offer both.

What Do the Results Mean?

If you elect to move forward, the next thing your doctor may explain is that this testing only determines your RISK for certain abnormalities; it does not confirm an abnormality. It is a risk assessment only. Your obstetrician’s office may perform this testing, or she/he may refer you to Maternal Fetal Medicine (a perinatologist, otherwise known as a high-risk OB doc).

If your results come back as low risk, GREAT! It means the chance that your baby actually has these abnormalities is low. Your next test would then be your anatomy screen at 18-20 Weeks to rule out structural malformations.

If your testing comes back as high risk for a particular problem, it will state which problem along with your risk level. This is where amnio comes into play. The amnio WILL confirm whether your baby really has this problem. You will have to decide whether you want to have this procedure or not. Your doctor will explain the risks and benefits of an amnio. The risks may be almost non-existent for infection and (last I knew of) around 1% or less for miscarriage. The risk may be significantly less, so be sure to discuss this with your doctor. The benefit, of course, is determining exactly what kind of abnormality you are dealing with so as to help you prepare in whatever way you feel is best for you and your family.

How Is an Amniocentesis Performed?

Basically, a sonographer will scan you to look for an adequate pocket of fluid. The doctor performing the amnio will determine what is a good pocket and what isn’t. Typically, they like to stay away from Baby’s head and your placenta, depending on where it is located. A nice pocket of fluid might look like the image below.

amniotic fluid test

Pocket of Amniotic Fluid

The sonographer will measure your baby’s heart rate and anything else the physician requires. The physician will then clean off the area of your skin with betadine just above the desired pocket of fluid (as long as you’re not allergic to it!). Sometimes she may use a numbing agent for the skin, sometimes not. If not, it’s because she can only numb the skin and not down deep. The numbing agent feels very similar to the needle used to withdraw the fluid, like a stick and a burn and a lot like a bee sting. Since this is the case, some docs would rather stick you only once and elect to not numb the skin.

If you have an aversion to needles, you may want to look away. The needle is long because it has to reach the fluid. Sometimes, your physician will use ultrasound guidance to insert the needle into the pocket of fluid. Once there, the doc will attach a syringe to withdraw the fluid. Once she has enough fluid, she’ll remove the needle and push the fluid into a vial. The vial goes off to the lab for testing. If all goes according to plan, the whole procedure of performing the amnio will take about ten minutes or so. Pretty quick!

Your sonographer or doc will clean off your skin and add a band-aid over the site. Many times you may even have a hard time seeing on your skin where the needle inserted! Your sonographer will usually measure Baby’s heart rate one more time, and your doc will give you instructions on receiving results.

What If I Really Don’t Want an Amniocentesis?

It’s important to note here that if you do not elect genetic testing and your ultrasound later reveals significant abnormalities, your doctor may strongly recommend an amnio. She/he may also do so in the case where you don’t really want an amnio, but your testing came back as high risk. Your doctor cannot force you to have an amnio. However, knowing what is at stake helps them manage your pregnancy and delivery more safely and effectively.

What to Ask Your Doctor about an Amniocentesis

It’s hard for us to ask questions about something if we don’t fully understand it. That’s understandable! Some questions you can ask your doctor are:

  1. What fetal abnormalities does the testing detect?
  2. What kind of genetic testing do you offer?
  3. Will my insurance cover this testing?
  4. Who will perform these tests?
  5. Where is testing performed?
  6. When will I get results?
  7. Why is the testing recommended?
  8. What are my options after receiving results?

 

Having a thorough conversation with your doctor about these issues and how you feel about them is of utmost importance. And, yes, some genetic testing today can determine your baby’s sex with greater than 99% accuracy. However, your doctor will not allow you the option for sex only. No one should take genetic testing lightly. Opting for these tests brings about other serious implications that you must weigh, as you can see by the above explanation. If you have a sincere interest in the testing, knowing that you may face serious future decisions, genetic testing may be for you.

So, for all the above reasons, one should be careful when throwing out recommendations to pregnant readers about what they need and don’t need, about what they should do or not do…especially if she is not a physician herself. In short…ladies, rely on your doctors for pregnancy advice! No pregnancy site or blog, including my own, can take the place of an informative and knowledgeable conversation with your obstetrician.

Here’s to your happy and healthy pregnancy:) You can email me at wombviewerblog@gmail.com!

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Posted on December 30th, 2015 by wombwithaviewblog.com

Now that our stockings have come down and we are once again staring Baby New Year in the face, it’s time to get back to ultrasound basics! Here is a recent email regarding that doggone nub theory. I just love emails that make me feel warm and tingly all over..or could that still be the egg nog?

hormonal mama:  Hello!! 🙂 I just wanted to let you know that your blog has been a complete saviour to me and my sanity over the past few nights. It is brilliant and informative and just what I needed in my hormonal state.

I have one question that I have been searching the web for a definitive answer to and I was hoping you could shed some much needed light.

We had our 12 week NT scan and the US machine seemed to be a LOT better than the photos I have seen posted, videos I have watched, etc. We could see extraordinary detail of the baby. The sonographer was checking all the usual parts and suddenly without warning he showed us the perfect potty shot (I was 12w1d). Now I know from reading that people say they all look the same at this stage. But what I cannot get over was how much the image showed a perfect little penis poking out the top of a round bulbous structure.

I’ve googled and you tubed 12wk girl vs boy potty shots and I just cannot get a girl scan that looks like an actual penis.

I’m clinging to the smallest shred of hope that I may still get my girl after seeing this but it was just so obvious and so so so clear.

Thank you so much in advance for any advice or insight you can give me. I’m so disappointed in myself for feeling gender disappointment. I didn’t realise how much I wanted a daughter (this is our last baby) until I saw that potty shot.

Please tell me honestly; I can take it!!

Yours very gratefully,
🙂

Ps. I think what you are doing for ladies like me is fantastic. I cannot believe I found you after all my searching for answers! An actual professional who answers silly hormonal women’s questions! Not a forum full of people who claim to know it all and actually know very little! 🙂

wwavb:  Thank you for all the nice things you’ve sent my way;) I appreciate it and am so happy you are enjoying reading my blog!

So, maybe you haven’t yet come across my posts on the subject. Cling away! Boys and girls can look EXACTLY alike early on. The links below will give you more information:

http://wombwithaviewblog.com/up-or-out/
http://wombwithaviewblog.com/early-gender-pics/

Check out the links below for my images of fetal sex which are textbook, classic, no-guesswork-needed images of both male and female sex:

http://wombwithaviewblog.com/female-gender-on-ultrasound-2/
http://wombwithaviewblog.com/boy-girl/
http://wombwithaviewblog.com/boy-vs-girl/
http://wombwithaviewblog.com/twin-gender-update/
http://wombwithaviewblog.com/third-trimester-male-gender/

All that being said, it’s okay to have a preference but we all get what we need in the end. Having another boy means you needed one another for whatever reason! I hope you’ll sign up and keep reading at wombwithaviewblog.com;)

Best wishes and Merry Christmas!
wwavblogger

hormonal mama:  Thank you for replying; I’m so grateful! I have posted a link to your blog on our pregnancy group page. I hope it gives some other ladies peace of mind. (And a good giggle!)

I was recently told by an US tech in the group that there is a “nub” on my image. But I am notoriously useless at seeing them. Would you be able to confirm (or deny) if there are any genital parts visible? All I’m seeing is legs and a cord. I know the angle of the dangle is not a reliable theory (from your blog!) but for someone to say she can see it on my scan, it would be helpful if I knew if it was even visible!

Many thanks again and again 🙂

12wk fetus/nub theory

wwavb:  Thanks so much! I, too, hope they get some useful info and a giggle, also;)

Does the sonographer in your group practice OB? Experienced or new to OB? I question because I entirely disagree. Every baby has a nub at this age. You just cannot be sure what the nub is. If she is referring to the thing sticking out near the butt, that is too large to be the nub in question so my thought is it’s baby’s cord.

And actually, to see the nub, the plane needs to be centered between baby’s legs which means you would not be able to see the legs in this view. See the image below:

Suspected Baby Girl at 12wks/nub theory

No legs here! That could be a tiny foot way above the arrow, however.

This tells me the angle on your baby is not perfectly centered and is a little too far lateral whereby including the leg in the image. I hope this makes sense! What a cutie, by the way;)

Keep me posted!
wwavblogger

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It’s entirely possible to get excellent images at 12wks and this theory is reported to be about 80% correct. If you do the math, that leaves 20% repainting a nursery if they believe it. Hmm..you decide if it’s worth it!

 

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